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Sacramental Theology on the Fly

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September 13th, 2005

Over the weekend I had a number of phone calls from a gentleman who apparently had some ties with the Mount St Michael group. The reason for the call is immaterial to this column, suffice it to say I suggested he contact another priest who lives further away than me who could better respond to his needs than I with my heavy weekend commitments. On Monday it transpired that the priest mentioned by me was not acceptable to two priests associated with Mount St Michael, who deemed this priest's orders "invalid" because he was ordained by a married bishop.

Let's stop right there ! If a married man were to receive Holy Orders his previous marriage would not invalidate the subsequent reception of Holy Orders. (No I'm NOT advocating such a course of action merely addressing the theological speculation on the issue). This is the unanimous teaching of all Catholic theologians. If a married man could not receive valid orders (by reason of his existing marriage) then St. Peter (a married man) was in big trouble as the First Pope. This is what you might call theology 1.01!

That priests from CMRI would question an ordination received from a married bishop beggars belief ! Any reader familiar with the chequered history of said group will know that Francis Schuckardt received just such an ordination and consecration from Daniel Quilter Brown (a married man, whose wife was still living, with Old Catholic orders) in the early 1970s and none of that group ever questioned such a move until the mid 1990s. Even after Schuckardt was ousted by the group, one of their clergy issued a long theological defense of their reliance upon a married Old Catholic bishop for valid Catholic orders. This defense was forwarded to me over 5 years ago with the knowledge and acquiescence of the current superior of the order Mark Pivarunas. Indeed I forwarded the article back to him last year in a brief correspondence I had with him. I transcribe the article here for the reader's perusal:

STATEMENT ON THE VALIDITY OF HOLY ORDERS

In the past several months many of you have had various questions in regard to the validity of the Orders of the Priests and Clerics here at Mount Saint Michael’s. This statement is an attempt to answer the questions that have been raised. We hope that the information provided will answer any questions that you may have.

Validity of Schismatic Orders

One of the principles upon which the sacramental theology of Holy Orders is based is that once an order has been validly received, the recipient always retains the powers of the Orders received although the right to exercise Orders may be lost or suspended by the Church. The Sacrament of Holy Orders imprints an indelible character upon the soul and it is from this indelible character that the power of the Order flows. It has always been the teaching of the Church that Orders received from or by schismatics are valid as long as the proper matter, form and intention are retained. As we said above, the right to exercise an Order may be lost or may be suspended by the Church, such as in the case of an excommunicant or one suspended for crime; nevertheless, the sacramental character, once validly received, can lever he removed. This is clearly seen in the writings of St. Thomas Aquinas. In his Summa Theologica (Supplement Q. 38, Art. 2), he states:

“Since the episcopal power is conferred by consecration, it must endure forever, however much a man may sin or be cut off from the Church.”

Again, St. Thomas says (Supplement Q. 64, Art. 9)

“If a man be suspended by the Church or excommunicated or degraded, he does not lose the power of conferring the sacraments, but the permission to use this power.”

Modern authors are in complete agreement with St. Thomas. Ludwig Ott, in his Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, says:

“Every validly consecrated bishop, including heretical, schismatic, simonistic or excommunicated bishops can validly dispense the Sacrament of Orders, provided he has the requisite intention, and follows the essential external rite.”

Father M. P. Forest, in his Why Are Anglican Orders Invalid, states:

“As regards the Sacrament of Orders, not only has the Church never taught that Orders conferred by schisniatics or heretics are invalid... on the contrary, She has insisted on the validity of such Orders unless there was some other defect of an essential character.”

Finally, Father Pohle-Preuss, in his work The Sacraments, says:

“The Church can take away what She Herself has given, but She cannot take away the power of conferring Holy Orders.”

Clearly, then, it is entirely possible and, in fact, is of common occurrence, that heretics, schismatics and excommunicants can possess and validly confer Holy Orders. The determination of the validity of such orders would rest upon the rite employed in the ordination ceremony and the intention of the minister and would he predicated on the assumption that the minister himself possessed valid Apostolic succession. Having laid this groundwork, let us proceed to a discussion of the schismatic Church of Utrecht.

The Schismatic Church of Utrecht

In the 17th and 18th centuries, French Jansenists fled to Holland where they found the Dutch clergy more favorable to the errors of Jansen. In the late 1600’s the vicars-apostolic of holland were cited to the Holy See for their Jansenist leanings, and the ecclesiastical government of Holland was transferred to the papal nuncio at Cologne. The Dutch Jansenists refused to recognize the authority of the nuncio, and a de  facto schism ensued.

In 1718, Dominic Varlet, a priest of the Seminary of the Foreign Missions in Paris, was consecrated in Paris as the coadjutor to the Bishop of Babylon. In 1719, while passing through Amsterdam on his way to the Near East, he conferred confirmation, thereby incurring the censures of the Church. Notice of his suspension was served upon him after his arrival in Persia, and Varlet returned to Europe. Rather than appeal the censure in Rome, he settled in Amsterdam and began to pontificate for the Jansenist dissidents. In October, 1742, Varlet performed the first of four episcopal consecrations which he bestowed at the request of the Jansenists of Utrecht. Thus the consecrations bestowed by Varlet gave valid Apostolic Succession to the schismatic Church of Utrecht.

The Church of Utrecht maintained the Roman Liturgy with the Tridentine Latin Mass. It professes the Catholic creed on almost all points of faith, the major divergence being on the Dogma of Papal Primacy and Infallibility, the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption. They retain the seven sacraments and are very similar to the Roman Catholic Church in ecclesiastical discipline.

The Church of Utrecht has almost certainly retained valid Apostolic Succession. Catholic writers on this subject classify them in the same category as the Eastern Orthodox Churches. The American Ecclesiastical Review in its July 1899 issue carried an article entitled, “Recent Schismatical Movements Among Catholics of the United States.” This article says in part:

“Concerning the Jansenist ordinations, we remark briefly that, according to Dens, the Holy See has received priests ordained by the Jansenist archbishop of Utrecht, without reordination , and that Berthier says: ‘The ordination of the schismatical Greeks and of the Jansenists is held as valid.’ The first Jansenist archbishop was consecrated in 1773, by Varlet, bishop who had been suspended for Jansenistic errors. Since then the succession has been preserved without a break, the Latin rite being maintained intact.”

Tanquerey in his Synopsis Theologiae Dogmaticae, Vol. II (1905) in a discussion on the invalidity of Anglican Orders, writes (page 618):

“In our days, certain Anglicans have gone to Holland to be ordained by the Jansenist bishop, which ordination is almost certainly valid.... 

In speaking of the Old Roman Catholic Church, the Roman  Catholic  Dictionary , by Addison Arnold, says: “They have received valid Orders.” A Catholic Dictionary, bearing the imprimatur of Cardinal Hayes of New York, states: “Their orders and sacraments are valid.” The Rev. Konrad Algermissen in his work, Christian Denomination, published in 1948, hearing the imprimatur of John Cardinal Glennon, St. Louis, Mo., (page 363) says:

“The Old Roman Catholic Church has received valid episcopal consecration...” In reply to, an inquiry about the Old Roman Catholic Church, the Far East magazine of June 1928, published by the St. Columban Fathers of St. Columbans, Nebraska, published the reply that “these Orders are valid.”

William J. Whalen in his work, Separated Brethren (1958), in dealing with the Old Roman Catholics, writes (page 204):

“While no official pronouncement has been made by the Vatican concerning the validity of Old Roman Catholic orders, we have no reason to doubt that they are valid. The Apostolic Succession does not depend on obedience to the See of Peter but rather on the objective line of succession from apostolic sources, the proper matter, form and the proper in intention. This means that Old Roman Catholic priests are probably true priests with the full powers of the priesthood, although they would be exercising these powers unlawfully. Likewise, Old Roman Catholic bishops are bishops in the Apostolic Succession.”

The Old Roman Catholic Church in the United States

The Old Roman Catholic schism spread to the United States in the late 1800’s and the early 1900’s. Although it is still possible to trace Old Roman Catholic Orders through several lines hack to the Church of Utrecht, we will discuss here only that line through which Bishop Daniel Q. Brown derived his Orders.

Arnold Harris. Matthews (1851—1919) was an Englishman raised as an Anglican. He studied for the Anglican ministry but prior to ordination entered the Catholic seminary of St. Peter’s at Glasgow. He was ordained to the Catholic priesthood but left the Church in 1889. He returned to the Anglican Church where he functioned as a curate, and while an Anglican clergyman, contracted marriage. He was reconciled to the Roman Catholic Church in 1899. In 1907, Matthews began correspondence with the Old Roman Catholics from Utrecht and was eventually consecrated by Archbishop Gul of Utrecht in April, 1908. Matthews returned to England, and in 1910 consecrated two Roman Catholic priests. This double consecration led to a rupture of relations between Matthews and the Church of Utrecht and brought his formal excommunication by Pope Pius X. In 1912, Matthews aiso consecrated an Austrian nobleman, the prince De Landes-Berghes et de Rache, and then sent De Landes-Berghes to the United States to head the Old Roman Catholic movement in this country. Matthews was reconciled to the Church in 1915 and died four years .later.

In 1916, De Landes-Berghes consecrated Carmel Henry Carfora (1878—1958). Carfora, a former Roman Catholic priest, had been born, educated and ordained in Italy. He came to the United States and worked as a missionary among the Italian immigrants in West Virginia. He organized several “independent” parishes after having some problems with his lawful ecclesiastical superiors . After his consecration by De Landes-Berghes, Carfora proceeded to found the North American Old Roman Catholic Church, which became one of the largest Old Roman Catholic Churches in the world; by 1958, Carfora's organization numbered some 85,000 members. William J. Whalen, in his book Separated Brethren (pages 206 and 207) writes:

“This body (the North American Old Roman Catholic Church) acknowledges the Primacy of the successor of St. Peter but denies his infallibility. Its statement of beliefs includes the seven sacraments, the Mass, Transubstantiation, the veneration and invocation of the glorious and Immaculate Mother of God, of the Angels, and the Saints, and prayers for the dead. While advocating celibacy, it does not forbid its clergy to marry.  English is used in the liturgy...  This body seems to be closer to Roman Catholicism than its European counterpart.”

In July of 1942, Carfora consecrated Hubert A. Rogers. Rogers functioned as Carfora’s co-adjutor and upon the death of Carfora in 1958, Rogers became the head of the North American Old Roman Catholic Church. In 1969, Rogers consecrated Daniel Q. Brown to the episcopacy.

A publication of the Old Roman Catholic diocese of Florida states:

“To correct any misinterpretation of what Old Roman Catholics believe, our bishops and priests meeting at the Twelfth General Council of the Old Roman Catholic Church, held at the Benedictine Abbey of St. Paul (Roman Catholic) at Newton, New Jersey, on April 27—28, 1973, made the following unanimous declaration: ‘This General Council reaffirms that it holds and teaches all that is held and taught by the Roman Catholic Church in matters of faith and morals.’ Clearly, then, lest there be any further misunderstanding, this Church holds and Teaches the Catholic Faith without any reservations, condemning all heresies condemned by Rome, and teaching even those doctrines that have been declared by Roman Pontiffs since this Church has been cut off from our Holy Father, the Pope.”

Daniel Q. Brown

Daniel Q. Brown was born and raised in the Roman Catholic Church. He became very concerned at the doctrinal and liturgical aberrations introduced by the Second Vatican Council and so left the Vatican II Church and became affiliated with the North American Old Roman Catholic Church under Rogers. Brown studied at the Old Roman Catholic seminary and was ordained and consecrated by Bishop Rogers. For some time Brown functioned as an Old Roman Catholic bishop, but by September of 1970 he had dropped the name “Old Roman Catholic” and had begun referring to himself as a Roman Catholic bishop. We first made contact with Brown in early 1970. Our community had just come under attack in the “traditionalist” Catholic press for our rejection of the new Mass and Paul VI. Bishop Brown wrote to us encouraging us to stand firm. Correspondence was begun with him and we learned that his Orders came through Old Roman Catholic lines. When we discovered that he was an Old Roman Catholic, we informed him that we did not want anything to do with him. It was at that point that he told us that he had gone to the Old Catholics to receive Holy Orders, but that he had never accepted their errors and that he still considered himself to be Catholic. In a letter dated September 17, 1970, Bishop Brown wrote:              

“We have no connections or intercourse with any other church or group and especially not with “Old” Catholics. It is true that our Apostolic Succession was obtained from a bishop descended from the Church of Utrecht, but this was done because we knew that there was no question as to the validity of their Orders. As a matter of fact, the Roman Catholic Church (pre—Vatican II, that is) has recognized the validity of Holy Orders emanating from the Church of Utrecht. We are Roman Catholics who feel obligated under pain of mortal sin to make sure that the Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ continues to the end of time as He promised. We believe that the “new” Church is not only heretical but is also fast plunging into a form of Unitarianism if not worse. We question the validity of the present Pope since many of the things he has done-—as well as things he has left undone——are not indicative of a valid Pope. We are not, however, anti-Papal. As a matter of fact, we commemorate the Pope (without naming the present one) in every Mass we say. We, indeed, look forward to the day when a valid Pope once more occupies the Chair of Peter (and this shall come-whether in ten years or a hundred) and on that very day we shall submit wholeheartedly to the Vicar of Christ on earth.”

This position was reiterated by Bishop Brown in a letter of July 10, 1971:

“We are Roman Catholics, nothing more, nothing less, who are forced by circumstances to function temporarily without a Pope. We follow the doctrine, dogma and liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church as She existed prior to the death of Pope Pius XII. Our Holy Orders are descendent from the Church of Utrecht (Holland) whose Apostolic Succession, Holy Orders and Sacraments have been recognized as valid on numerous occasions by the Roman Catholic Church. We are not schismatics, apostates or heretics——on the contrary, we look forward to the day on which we can be united with the valid Holy See. We are not in communion with any other church or denomination.”

We corresponded and met with Bishop Brown over a period of about two years. We assured ourselves of his orthodoxy and his good intentions and eventually he ordained and consecrated Bishop Schuckardt in October and November 1971.

Several Objections Answered

Some assert that even though the episcopal consecration of Bishop Schuckardt was valid, the exercise of his sacerdotal and episcopal powers would be illicit. This assertion is usually based on the following presumptions: (1) Bishop Brown incurred automatic excommunication and suspension in receiving orders illicitly in a schismatical—heretical sect. (2) Bishop Schuckardt incurred an irregularity, from which he was not dispensed, when as a layman he distributed Holy Communion on several occasions.

Bishop Brown as layman did in the early 1960’s incur ipso facto excommunication by joining the Old Roman Catholic Church. He incurred suspension and excommunication by his reception of Holy Orders and receiving episcopal consecration in this schismatical—heretical sect. However, prior to his consecration of Bishop Schuckardt, he publicly renounced the errors of the Old Roman Catholic Church and made a Profession of Faith. Church History provides examples where schismatic and/or heretical bishops have been received into Catholic Communion through the Profession of Faith.

“From the ancient institutions of the Fathers we have learned that those who are baptized in the name of the Trinity, although amid heresy, whenever they return to the Holy Church, may he recalled to the bosom of their Mother the Church either with the anointing of chrism, or the imposition of hands, or with A PROFESSION OF FAITH ALONE... without any hesitation receive all whoever return from the perverse error of Nestorius. . . make no opposition or difficulty in regard to their own orders.” (Letter of Pope St. Gregory, Qui Caritati, to the bishops of Spain, Denz. 249)

These objections are also founded on a false application of Canon Law, for Canon Law, due to its imperfect nature, is subject to change. This change is termed equity when applied by a superior, or epikeia, when as exception to the law is presumed by an individual (Canon 18). St. Thomas Aquinas discusses epikeia:

“Every law is directed to the common weal of men, and derives the force and nature of law accordingly. Hence the jurist says: ‘By no reason of law, or favor of equity, is it allowable for us to interpret harshly and render burdensome, those useful measures which have been enacted for the welfare of man.’ Now it happens that the observance of some point of law conduces to the common weal in the majority of instances, and yet, in some cases, it is very hurtful. Since then the lawgiver cannot have in view every single case, he shapes the law according to what happens most frequently... .Wherefore if a case arises wherein the observance of a law would be hurtful to the general welfare, it should not be observed.”

(Summa  Theologica, I—II, Q. 96, Art. 6) 

“Since human actions, with which laws are concerned, are composed of contingent singulars and are innumberable in their diversity, it was not possible to lay down rules of law that would apply to every single case. Legislators in framing laws attend to what commonly happens; although if the law be applied to certain cases it will frustrate the equality of justice and be injurious to the common good which the law has in view.

“Epikeia does not set aside that which is just in itself but that which is just as by law established. Nor is it oppossed to severity, which follows the letter of the law when it ought to be followed. To follow the letter of the law when it ought not to be followed is sinful. Hence it is written in the Codex of Laws and Constitutions under Law V.: Without doubt he transgresses the law who by adhering to the letter of the law strives to defeat the intention of the lawgiver.”

(Summa Theologica, II-II, Q. 120, Art.1)

Abbo and Hannan in their work The Sacred Canons, pg. 39, in treating of epikeia, state:

“Epikeia, a benign interpretation of the human law according to that which is just and good, is said by St. Thomas to be a virtue by which a person, though not observing the strict letter of the law, does comply with the intention of the lawgiver. The legislator is presumed to intend what is good. If, then, in a particular case, literal obedience would be productive of evil or become morally impossible, the presumption is justified that the legislator did not intend to insist upon the enforcement of his law under those circumstances.”

Bishop Brown invoked epikeia. If there only had been a legitimate Holy Father, Brown’s path would have been obvious. But he knew that Paul VI was not a pope and he knew of no bishops remaining faithful to the Church, so recourse was impossible. Bishop Brown felt strongly the responsibility to consecrate someone to preserve Apostolic Succession. In Brown’s certain doubt of the relevant application of Canon Law, his suspension and any irregularities ceased and jurisdiction was supplied by the Church to render his acts licit. Woywood in his Practical Commentary on the Code of Canon Law (Vol. I, pg. 10) states:

“When the existence, meaning, or extent of the obligation of a law is doubtful it is called dubium juris... when the majority of moralists maintain that doubtful law is not a law, and has no force to hind in conscience. This is true if the meaning, or scope of the law is in doubt, and the code admits that a law in a dubium juris has no binding force.”

Speaking of this doubt of Law, Bouscarell and Ellis in their Canon Law, a Text and a Commentary (pg. 114) say:

“As regards the licitness of the use of jurisdiction which is merely supplied by the Church: (a) in a positive and probable doubt of law the use is simply licit...”

Prior to Bishop Schuckardt’s ordination and consecration by Bishop Brown, several priests had reserved the Blessed Sacrament here on condition that Our Lord should be rendered due homage by the Community and that the Sacred Species should be consumed before they could undergo corruption. Again in this instance the principle of epikeia was invoked to make it possible for Holy Communion to he taken to the sick and given to members of the religious Congregation when priests were not present. Certainly such an action was not unprecedented in Church History. In the times of persecution such activity was common, as can be seen from the histories of the Roman persecutions and the persecution of the Church in France during the Reign of Terror. The persecution of the Church in Mexico in the early 1900’s furnishes us with yet another example. Pope Pius XI in 1927 granted the faithful in Mexico:

“In view of peculiar and extraordinary circumstances whenever no suitable and ready priest, deacon, subdeacon, or cleric can be had to administer Holy Viaticum to the sick or dying, a pious layman... may carry the Sacred Species in a vessel, which is blessed or to be blessed; and the sick person may receive the Sacred Species with his own hands.., or they (may be) administered by the man who carried them.” (Canon Law Digest Vol. II, pg.26 ff)

Not only are these actions of the then Brother Francis defensible, in light of precedents in Church History, but because of the extraordinary circumstances no irregularities would have been incurred 

“The irregularities from delinquency are unlawful exercise of the powers of Major Orders by a cleric or layman.”

(Moral Theology, McHugh Callan Vol. II, pg. 747)

“If the doubt is of law, there is no irregularity.”

(Moral  Theology, Jone-Adelman, pg. 472)

“A law ceases to bind...if the law has become unreasonable.”

(Canon 20)

Traditional Catholics must remember that many of the 2414 canons in the Code of Canon Law are not strictly applicable in the circumstances that we find ourselves in today. The Church today is certainly in a different position than it was in 1958 and therefore the laws must be interpreted in view of the nature of the times and in light of previous precedents in Church History. That part of Canon Law which is applicable must be applied and that part of Canon Law whose application would he harmful, impossible, useless or unreasonable, in the present circumstances, ought not be applied. For as St. Thomas says:

“To follow the letter of the law when it ought not to be followed is sinful”

Conclusion

Let us briefly re-capitulate the main points of this article. The Old Roman Catholic Church does possess valid Apostolic Succession and the validity of Old Roman Catholic Orders is recognized by the Roman Catholic Church. Although Bishop Daniel Q. Brown erred in receiving orders from a schismatic Church he did repent and sought to return to the true Catholic Church. Due to the extraordinary nature of our times it was not possible for him to submit to a true and legitimate Pope and so he did the best that he could do in these circumstances. He publicly renounced his error, made a profession of the Catholic Faith, and began to work with those traditional Catholics who sought the true Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the true sacraments of the Church. In short, Bishop Brown did what any prudent man would have done in the same situation (given the extraordinary nature of our times). Bishop Brown invoked Canons 209, 2261, and 2264 to obtain the jurisdiction needed to licitly give the sacraments to the faithful who sought them.

In consecrating Francis Schuckardt to the episcopacy, Bishop Brown invoked the principle of epikeia and judged that the Church would wish that Apostolic Succession be transmitted to others so that the faithful would have the benefit of the Mass and the sacraments. It must be remembered that in granting the so-called "extraordinary" or “emergency” faculties, Holy Mother the Church is providing for the spiritual welfare of Her children, who would otherwise he left without the Mass and the sacraments. Again, it is illogical and ridiculous to argue for a strict interpretation of Canon Law in extraordinary times when Canon Law is obviously not strictly applicable or in circumstances when the strict application of the law would deprive the faithful of the sacraments and render the true Mass and Sacraments almost nonexistent. It is rather interesting that the same people who argue for a strict interpretation of Canon Law will engage in verbal gymnastics to allow an aged French prelate, in violation of all Canon Law, (if strictly applicable), to found a religious society, send priests throughout the world to found parishes in already existent dioceses, openly and scandalously refuse obedience to his superiors, travel into the territory of other bishops to perform pontifical functions even though specifically prohibited from performing these functions etc. etc. ad infinitum.

To my knowledge the CMRI group have never repudiated this article (and why would they since it contains correct Catholic teaching ?) 

Furthermore, during the time of ecclesiastical woes of Catholics behind the Iron Curtain a number of married clergy were ordained (including bishops). Once the Iron Curtain fell, modern Rome (interestingly enough the then Cardinal Ratzinger handled the mess) had the problem of married clergy to deal with. At no time was the validity of orders received ever an issue, merely the pastoral problem of what to do with real bishops who were married. It was decided (in a very pastorally unsound move by Rome) merely to consider these men as laymen (although juridically these men were valid bishops and the unmarried priests these men ordained were retained by Rome for Sacramental duty). Not unexpectedly a number of Bishops thus consecrated took great umbrage at Rome for this (and why not ?) Many of these men had borne the brunt of Communism and kept the Sacramental life for Catholics alive during a time of great persecution for the Church and at grave personal risk for themselves and their families. Nevertheless, it is clear then, that the validity of a priest's orders cannot be legitimately questioned on the basis of having received ordination from a married bishop (which may come as a surprise to the theologically uninitiated as much as it apparently would to the two CMRI priests in question).

During a later conversation with Sister Mary Michaela, who received a call from the same gentleman on Monday evening, the CMRI "married bishop" objection was made known. The redoubtable Sister refuted the objection leveled by the two CMRI priests (along the lines I have illustrated above). She, it should be emphasized, has had no formal training in Sacramental Theology, whereas supposedly the CMRI priests have. Sister then proceeded to correctly inform the caller that in any case the priest in question had been re-ordained by another unmarried "Thuc" Bishop since arriving in the United States and she went on to say that "If he's not valid as a "Thuc" priest then Frs X and Y aren't valid either". That was enough to reassure our caller (and enough for a re-think in Spokane and elsewhere no doubt).

This afternoon (Tuesday) I received a follow-up call from the original caller to say that the priest I had originally recommended had performed the last rites as requested. Nothing daunted I asked how he had come to overcome his original doubt. He responded that the two CMRI priests had discovered that the priest's lineage (by his second ordination) was now valid since it came "from Mexico".

Actually the ordination came from a Thuc bishop in the Palmar de Troya lineage here in Florida. The Bishop (another one) with whom the priest is currently affiliated was consecrated by another married bishop who had consecrated the original married bishop who had ordained the priest I suggested the first time round. Complicated isn't it ?

The reality is, though, CMRI did a quick re-think on policy, not based on theology, but on political expediency: their own orders were up for question so they said the priest was valid and chanced the consequences !

As the Pirate King so wisely said to Frederick in Gilbert and Sullivan's The Pirates of Penzance: "Always follow the dictates of your conscience my boy, and chance the consequences !"

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